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Cliff Face Dendritics, Two of a kind or not?

The images below show two dramatically different sized features which have some common aspects but are they the result of a single event
or multiple events or even entirely different processes?

From electric discharge experiments with a dust covered CRT there seems to be a clue showing that they may both occur as a consequence of electrical discharge. However, the question remains of being sculpted entirely by the primary event or forming during secondary process, or even time dependent slow-accumulation process.
This will require careful observation of features and experiment results.
Keep in mind the proximity of Olympus Mon and other blister features to the west(?). Did surface currents traverse mars in a manner similar to CJ's sphere experiment? Does an arc which strikes at right angle travel or hold there to form an anode blister while sending out lateral surface currents with coronal signatures.
Some details just came to my attention(8/14), presented at this link by Wal Thornhill in 2003.

We should be asking if what is seen now is only the final stage of what created the initial feature?
Did subsequent interaction bring additional sculpting?
Note the small
features hanging
just under the rim
and the long features
reaching to the floor.
The ones that go to the floor
have an obvious branching pattern.
Between each of the raised branches
is a trough with a rounded end.
Note the clean rim-face of one alcove, with no
hangers, it may be a crater remnant.
Far to its right is a separated rim
with a trough behind

The trough is against another clean rim face.
Is that a tendril-path or rim-slump beginning?
What should we ask about the slumping at
lower center of photo?
The troughs may be corona
side-filaments secondary to those that
reach to the rim and
split the small features
which are also branching
with similar troughs.

Images above, from Thunderbolt Project Video; Lightning Scarred Mars

But this suggestion is one that may not be necessary
if these features are time-dependant dust deposits to points of seed-accumulation marked by the initial event, as seen in
these two images  from the two-monitor p/o experiment of 2007
"Mass-lifting" also leaves behind similar features perpendicular to a rim attachment point.

An electric wind plays an important role in Electric Discharge Machining (EDM) where loose material is present, as does corona emissions, and it all should come into play in the formation of certain planetary features. Keep in mind that the solar wind is 'dark current' electric wind (Thornhill 2012).
Corona emissions, will manifest themselves in a variety of ways, from barely noticeable to lethal.
A single coronal streamer also manifests its own side streamers.
In the recent CRT experiments I think we are looking at an inverse aspect of corona emission where the current is not sustained in the conductor, which only serves as a path for discharging the CRT surface. The tendrils which clear the surface seem to mimic corona behavior, but in reverse,
their brief activity carrying material from the CRT surface.

At this low energy the ends are rounded which differs slightly from the apparent pointed ends at higher levels as seen in the left image
from this experiment by C.J. Ransom but a close up look shows rounded ends that cut scalloped trenches in the surface material.
C.J. Ransom
Image from Thunderbolts Project video
"Lightning Scarred Mars".
(Experiment was with an aluminum painted sphere
and extreme electric discharge.)
large image of rounded coronal paths
CRT experiment with suspended wire
Dust covered surface has strip of metal on it.
Power is cycled on/off and spark is taken from wire and strip.

The paralell paths have a counterpart at the surrounding canyon walls.

The filamentary coronal paths radiating perpendicularly from the ridge seem to be involved in sculpting the scallops on adjacent walls of the canyon.


The most important detail of these two images is toward the center of the page where loss of contact between the metal strip and the CRT caused the discharge to jump a gap to get to the strip. This might have created a reversal of the typical pattern, to being an inverted fan.

3D images also to found for this experiment session in Pre-conference image directory 2012


An important detail worthy of close consideration is the presence of a central ridge feature within the two trenches shown previously. On each side of the ridge are excavations with cross-sectional sub-excavations which are in line with the scallops on either face and the central ridge. This is a pattern seen in the CRT experiment where axial discharge pathways offer an opportunity to show their corona's interaction with the dust covered surface as a current is taken through the conductor discharging the CRT surface.
Hebes canyon and the NE leg of Valles Marineris were left in the early stages of excavation and -wrt- Hebes two details seem significant: the long characteristic of the perimeter ridges and thier hung-ridges which have perpendicular orientation the ridge they hang from. It seems that we may be seeing corona at two scales, one that comes off the central ridge and reaches to the scallops of the perimeter wall the other which radiates from the up-scale tendril and climbs the remnant material between each primary tendril.
The hanging dendritic fans seem to be from down-scaled tendrils of the primary which made its way from the central ridge to the trench perimeter. Look for the feathery remnants in all the images provided.
This can be seen in many of the ridge2wire image mentioned on this page and in the lab group directory.

Electric-spark-scars crt11 Image preview